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	<title>Comments on: $200 Bribe or $300 Fine - A Game Theoretic Analysis</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aoshi_88</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63968</link>
		<dc:creator>Aoshi_88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avoid-fine-from-cop no jutsu... HYAAGHHHH!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoid-fine-from-cop no jutsu&#8230; HYAAGHHHH!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chewxy</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63909</link>
		<dc:creator>Chewxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aoshi:
Yes, sometimes the simplest solutions are the best

Coffeeholic:
LOL. Really? Gotta meet up with Irene and ask her her techniques</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aoshi:<br />
Yes, sometimes the simplest solutions are the best</p>
<p>Coffeeholic:<br />
LOL. Really? Gotta meet up with Irene and ask her her techniques</p>
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		<title>By: Coffeeholic</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63801</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffeeholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Act innocent like I-Rene. She always escaped. No fine, no bribery, no nothing. No idea how she makes it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Act innocent like I-Rene. She always escaped. No fine, no bribery, no nothing. No idea how she makes it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aoshi_88</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63760</link>
		<dc:creator>Aoshi_88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the simple thing... don't bribe them.

Some cops ask for bribes even before they take out their booklet to issue you a summons.

And if they ask, "How do we settle this?", just ask for the fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the simple thing&#8230; don&#8217;t bribe them.</p>
<p>Some cops ask for bribes even before they take out their booklet to issue you a summons.</p>
<p>And if they ask, &#8220;How do we settle this?&#8221;, just ask for the fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Chewxy</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63732</link>
		<dc:creator>Chewxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm okay.

Being interested doesn't mean having the incentive to be bothered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm okay.</p>
<p>Being interested doesn&#8217;t mean having the incentive to be bothered.</p>
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		<title>By: Liss</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63731</link>
		<dc:creator>Liss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A. Speed's back.  
B. You'd be counting yourself as one of the few who "aren't interested".  Yet you ARE interested, but can't be bothered because 'apparently' others aren't interested.  I want to explain more but I can't figure out how to say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A. Speed&#8217;s back.<br />
B. You&#8217;d be counting yourself as one of the few who &#8220;aren&#8217;t interested&#8221;.  Yet you ARE interested, but can&#8217;t be bothered because &#8216;apparently&#8217; others aren&#8217;t interested.  I want to explain more but I can&#8217;t figure out how to say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chewxy</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63727</link>
		<dc:creator>Chewxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Liss&lt;/strong&gt;:
Yah. That's why I said "I doubt I’d be marginal enough to cause a change". Not so much of a victim mentality, but more of apathy. Like in terms of voting - pointless. Not every bit counts if not everyone is interested. (I feel a bit lazy to calculate an n-player game though, and besides, there is a ton of papers on voting already - both for and against it)
Er, in 2 days, TPG will release the throttle, so the speed will be back up at 24mbps.

&lt;strong&gt;Tubby&lt;/strong&gt;:
Hmm.. no thanks mate. Not interested in serving the public. Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Liss</strong>:<br />
Yah. That&#8217;s why I said &#8220;I doubt I’d be marginal enough to cause a change&#8221;. Not so much of a victim mentality, but more of apathy. Like in terms of voting - pointless. Not every bit counts if not everyone is interested. (I feel a bit lazy to calculate an n-player game though, and besides, there is a ton of papers on voting already - both for and against it)<br />
Er, in 2 days, TPG will release the throttle, so the speed will be back up at 24mbps.</p>
<p><strong>Tubby</strong>:<br />
Hmm.. no thanks mate. Not interested in serving the public. Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Tubby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for Chew to be a policeman in Malaysia.

&#124; Tubby &#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for Chew to be a policeman in Malaysia.</p>
<p>| Tubby |</p>
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		<title>By: Liss</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63724</link>
		<dc:creator>Liss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever heard of the saying "every little bit counts"?  Yeah.  I'm tempted to say you've got somewhat of a 'victim mentality' for this.  A bit "what's the point?  I'm only one person; I can't do anything!".  

What's happening in 2 days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever heard of the saying &#8220;every little bit counts&#8221;?  Yeah.  I&#8217;m tempted to say you&#8217;ve got somewhat of a &#8216;victim mentality&#8217; for this.  A bit &#8220;what&#8217;s the point?  I&#8217;m only one person; I can&#8217;t do anything!&#8221;.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s happening in 2 days?</p>
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		<title>By: Chewxy</title>
		<link>http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/17/200-bribe-or-300-fine-a-game-theoretic-analysis/#comment-63723</link>
		<dc:creator>Chewxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Danny&lt;/strong&gt;:
Paid the fine, didn't report (couldn't be bothered), and still living with a clear conscience. I doubt I'd be marginal enough to cause a change.

&lt;strong&gt;Liss&lt;/strong&gt;:
Heh. Nvm, keep resetting. 2 more days... :D

&lt;strong&gt;zcer&lt;/strong&gt;:
yeah, sorry. I was supposed to post that in the &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/14/random-miscellaneous-stuff/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Random Miscellaneous Stuff&lt;/a&gt; post... but I thought I had stuffed enough economic nonsense in it already. But yea.

This isn't a justification though. I did it just for fun. If I wanted to justify me paying the fines, I'd use other methods to.
Assumptions were necessary as I said, there is really a dearth of data available, so you just have to make do, and use rough probabilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Danny</strong>:<br />
Paid the fine, didn&#8217;t report (couldn&#8217;t be bothered), and still living with a clear conscience. I doubt I&#8217;d be marginal enough to cause a change.</p>
<p><strong>Liss</strong>:<br />
Heh. Nvm, keep resetting. 2 more days&#8230; <img src='http://blog.chewxy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>zcer</strong>:<br />
yeah, sorry. I was supposed to post that in the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://blog.chewxy.com/2008/01/14/random-miscellaneous-stuff/" rel="nofollow">Random Miscellaneous Stuff</a> post&#8230; but I thought I had stuffed enough economic nonsense in it already. But yea.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a justification though. I did it just for fun. If I wanted to justify me paying the fines, I&#8217;d use other methods to.<br />
Assumptions were necessary as I said, there is really a dearth of data available, so you just have to make do, and use rough probabilities.</p>
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